Junk it

The whole idea of breeds is silly. It is dog show stuff. It is belief inspired by purebred ideology.

Breed dogs for their use. Coat and size are a factor, but not breed.

Are your field bred working setters getting too inbred?
Why breed them to a bench setter?
Breed them to a field bred working pointer.

Do you hesitate because then the puppies would have no "purebred papers" and it would be easier to sell 1/2 working setter, 1/2 bench setter puppies, with papers, to the fools who would buy them, than to sell pure working field bred pointsetters?

1. Degree not pedigree.

Again it is working ability, health, and temperament!!! Degree not pedigree.

Do NOT let "looks" crepe into your posts.

Who, except dog show people, cares what the details of a dog are? Who cares what a German Shepherd Dog looks like vs what a Dobermann Pinscher looks like?

Make breeds by their profession!!

Make police dogs, military dogs, personal protection dogs, and shutzhund degreed dogs , all one breed.

Once the dog is two years old, can do the work, and is healthy, then he can trade his puppy papers for registration papers and can be bred.

Start the puppies in drill, obedience, scent matching, tracking, and other performance events to show that the dog is trainable, can work in public, and be around other dogs and still perform.

If one boxer X poodle can do the work, but one purebred German Shepherd Dog can not, then let the boxoodle win the event - that GSD doesn't deserve it.

Only if your GSDs PROVE that they can win over the other breeds, should they be placed above the other breeds - otherwise we are just talking about our dogs being better.

Forget that "silly show stuff". Looks don't matter. Color doesn't matter - so long as it is not linked to health problems.

What matters is the dog's degree, his training and work - not his pedigree or how pretty his photo is.

A GSD is NOT his photo, he is his abilities, which are proven through his performance.

Degree not pedigree.
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What we had.

This is an older type of German Shepherd Dog.

Breed Friends

This is an old style Doberman Pincher.


Notice how much she looks like the old style German Shepherd Dog?

Double or Nothing.

It is easy to say "Just spay/neuter your show shepherds, and then buy working shepherds that aren't so extreme", but show breeders breed to win, don't they? so the answer there is to change the judging - or just not have dog shows anymore, they are kind of silly, aren't they?

But many dog breeders, who have been at it for a long time, know their personal dog's ancestry like a soap opera fan knows the histories of the characters on their favorite soap opera.

It hurts these old timers to feel that their line of dogs, would come to an end, and not be bred anymore. Change is better than death, so maybe the answer is to outcross to Doberman Pinschers?

But to do that, the idea of "purebreds" has to go into the trash bin. Dog breeders need to understand how close "inbred" and "purebred" are, and to understand that neither needs to be their goal in breeding dogs - they can breed for genetic diversity, health, and temperament.